Senior Rounds – Susan Teschke Can I use venous blood as a substitute for arterial when obtaining blood gases?
Obj ti Objectives 1 List the general indications for blood gas 1. analysis and the complications 2 Critically analyze the usefulness of 2. venous gases in clinical practice 3 Describe 3. D ib situations it ti iin which hi h VBG VBGs might i ht be a good substitution for ABGs
O tli Outline Case Background Information I f ti sought ht from f blood bl d gases Indications
Alternatives Alt ti / Why Wh substitute? b tit t ? Two and a half papers Conclusion Back to the case
Indications/Uses of blood gases Diagnostic criteria ARDS/ALI Respiratory failure Carbon monoxide poisoning Methemoglobinemia
Indications/Uses of blood gases Cutoff values fulfill management recommendations or guidelines Long-term oxygen therapy Preoperative evaluation Pulmonary disability Qualification for noninvasive ventilation Addition of prednisone in PCP Hyperbaric chamber in patients with carbon monoxide poisoning
Indications/Uses of blood gases Assist in the ongoing management Exacerbations of COPD and asthma Course of interstitial lung disease and response to treatment Wean mechanical ventilation, optimize oxygen delivery, limit the risk of oxygen toxicity Assessment of acid-base balance Pathogenesis of disturbance (ex salicylate, toxic OH)
Indications/Uses of blood gases Calculation physiologic variables such as: Oxygen content Oxygen delivery Alveolar-arterial oxygen difference Shunt ratio
Potential complications of an ABG
Bruising g ((30%)) Pain or tenderness (10%) Hematoma (5%) D Decrease iin pulse l d due tto arterial t i l spasm (1 (1.2% 2% tto 1 1.4%) 4%) Aneurysm (0.2%) Hemorrhage Ischemia Compression neuropathy Sepsis Arteriovenous fistula
STAT!Ref - ACP PIER & AHFS DI® Essentials; Arterial Blood Gases, accessed July 2009
Why use alternative? Avoid complications and pain Avoid invasive monitoring techniques such as indwelling catheter Reduce the number of ABG sampling Arterial access is not available Venous blood draw routinely y and easily y performed
Alternatives Pulse oximetry -> > oxygenation Capnography -> end-tidal PaCO2 Capillary C ill bl blood d gas sampling li Venous blood sampling
FYI For most of the general indications there are no prospective studies to determine whether ABG analysis alters diagnosis or management or optimizes quality of patient care (11). One study found that about 30% of arterial blood gases obtained in a tertiary care hospital setting may be unnecessary (12) (12).
STAT!Ref - ACP PIER & AHFS DI® Essentials; Arterial Blood Gases, accessed July 2009
The Question Can I use venous blood as a substitute for arterial when obtaining blood gases?
Case 1 86F with end-stage end stage COPD COPD, admitted with COPD exacerbation and now likely going to require home O2 She has undergone multiple ABGs and has significant bruising and small hematomas at the radial sites Can C we use a venous gas tto quantify tif her h oxygenation?
Case 2 86F with end-stage end stage COPD, admitted with COPD exacerbation and now found to have LOC Multiple attempts at an ABG are unsuccessful She had a VBG completed in the ER and y yyesterday y as well accidentally Can we use a venous gas to rule out CO2 narcosis as a cause of her LOC?
Case 3 28M with T1DM seen in ER for suspected DKA Has had multiple episodes in past past, and had arterial spasm with last ABG Adamantly Ad tl refuses f an ABG Can we use a VBG to accurately quantify and document his acidosis and pH?
Rang et al, 2002 Aims: 1. prospectively examine correlations and differences between ABG and peripheral VBG in ED pts 2. Determine whether venous values predict p arterial values accurately enough to replace them in a clinical setting
Rang et al, 2002 Previous studies in ED patients had shown good correlation but.. Retrospective No agreement on clinically significant differences (± 2 SD?)
Methods Kingston General Hospital (academic, tertiary care) Inclusion: all adult pts presenting to ER Exclusion: 0400-0800h Data: Indication Site, Site time time, number of attempts attempts, age age, sex sex, VS VS, O2sat, meds, O2Rx, presenting complaint, discharge diagnosis
Methods Venous drawn from same location Time between Only ABG results reported
Identified ALL ABGs completed within a random 6 6-day day period and compared these patients to enrolled patients
Methods Defining clinically important differences: Surveyed 45 ERPs “II would feel uncomfortable using only the venous value for clinical decisions if it was y from the arterial more than ______ units away value.” pH, pCO2, pO2
Analysis No primary endpoint defined Means and CI for pH, pCO2, pO2, survey results Graphical method to examine agreement Student’s t-test between means of enrolled vs non-enrolled
Table 1
Rang ett al, R l 2002 T Table bl 1 N=218 enrolled vs n=62 not enrolled No major differences, except slightly more respiratory indication in enrolled g group p vs metabolic in non-enrolled
Results 87% had venous within 5 minutes 96% within 10 minutes 58% (26) surveys returned
Correlation in pH
Rang et al, 2002 graph venous pH to arterial pH, r=0.913
Correlation in pCO2
Rang et al, 2002 graph venous pCO2 to arterial pCO2, r=0.921
Correlation in HCO3
Rang et al, 2002 graph venous HC03 to arterial HC03, 0.953
Agreement in pH – 66%
Rang et al, 2002 graph arterial-venous pH differences to average of arterial and venous (agreement) pH
Agreement in pCO2 – 51%
Rang et al, 2002 graph arterial-venous pCO2 differences to average of arterial and venous (agreement) pCO2
Agreement in HCO3 – 87%
Rang et al, 2002 graph arterial-venous pHCO3 differences to average of arterial and venous (agreement) pHCO3
Arterial-Venous Arterial Venous differences (Mean units))
95% of diff ((2 SD))
pH
Clinically significant g differences ± 0.05
pCO2
± 6.6
± 13.9
HCO3
± 3.5
± 3.5
± 0.08
Conclusions Excellent correlation (linear) Moderate agreement Clinically Cli i ll significant i ifi t diff differences ((survey)) Systematic differences
Therefore… Th f arterial t i l and d venous samples l are not equivalent… BUT Useful to trend (good correlation) Can we accurately calculate arterial values?
Strengths/Weaknesses Small, one center Prospective, checked for bias in enrollment, Canadian Good, simple question, attempted to define clinically significant differences Subjective definition of clinically significant (could we measure this? real time decision? scenarios?) No comment on pO2 No
Toftegaard et al, 2008 and 2009 Several studies correlating pH (a-v) (a v), two studies correlating peripheral venous to arterial pCO2 showing good correlation Few studies correlating pO2, samples not taken simultaneously
Toftegaard et al, 2008 and 2009 Aim: 1. Examine the correlation between arterial values and venous values sampled peripherally, centrally and from a pulmonary arterial catheter, in adult patients with a wide range of acid–base and oxygenation status 2. Evaluate method for calculating arterial pH, pCO2, CO2 HCO3 HCO3, and d pO2 O2 values l ffrom venous samples
Methods 112 adult patients (39♀ (39♀, ages 26-81) 26 81) From respirology, thoracic ICU, multidisciplinary ICU Three groups 1. 36 hemodynamically stable patients with COPD 2 51 stable 2. t bl patients ti t without ith t COPD 3. 25 unstable patients without COPD
Methods Simultaneous arterial and venous gases and SpO2 taken (within 10 seconds) 103 p peripheral, p , 73 central,, 18 mixed venous
Second arterial taken after venous if p venous sites sampled p multiple 9 patients excluded: 3 missed arterial or venous values 5 had large Hb differences 1 had O2 changed during draw
Methods Peripheral venous drawn from: Upper extremity Well perfused with normal temperature and capillary response No apparent lesions
Anaerobic syringes Compared 1) arterial to venous values and 2) arterial to calculated arterial values
Method
Crazy diagram showing derivation of equation
Results – arterial to venous No difference before + after arterial samples Good arterial to peripheral venous correlation for pH ((within acceptable p p lab error)) 0.026 ± 0.046 (bias ± 2 SD)
Moderate a-v correlations for p pCO2 ((outside lab error of ± 5.0, within clinically acceptable error?) – 4.5 ± 8.6 mmHg (bias ± 2 SD)
Poor a-v correlations for pO2
Results – arterial to calculated arterial Excellent agreement in measured and calculated arterial pH and CO2 pH 0 0.002 002 ± 0.027 0 027 (bias ± 2 SD; lab ± 0.04) 0 04) pCO2 -0.30 ± 3.88 mmHg (bias ± 2 SD; lab ± 5) Similar to variability between consecutive arterial samples (73 pts) SD half of that of direct venous comparison
Poor agreement for pO2 1 57 ± 13.89 1.57 13 89 mmHg (lab ± 4.5) 4 5) for SpO2