NEW JERSEY STATE HEALTH PLANNING BOARD - - IN RE:
Certificate of Need for the Closure of Virtua West Jersey Hospital - Berlin PUBLIC HEARING - - Berlin Township Municipal Building 135 Route 73 South West Berlin, New Jersey 08091 - - Wednesday, October 22, 2014 6:05 p.m. - - -
BEFORE: JUDY B. BROWN, R.N. New Jersey Department of Health LUISA ALEXOPOULOS, New Jersey Department of Health - - Public Hearing, commencing at approximately 6:05 p.m., at the Berlin Township Municipal Building, 135 Route 73 South, West Berlin, New Jersey, on the above date, before Rose A. Tamburri, RPR, CM, CCR, CRR, National Speed and Accuracy Champion and Notary Public. - - CLASS ACT REPORTING AGENCY Certified Court Reporters 2149 South 3rd Street 133 Gaither Drive, Suite H Philadelphia, PA 19148 Mt. Laurel, NJ 08054 (215) 928-9760 (856) 235-5108
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SPEAKERS:
MICHAEL KOTZEN
DR. RICK LUDWIN
BOB CARULLO
LOU DEMARCO
VIRGIL JOHNSON
ALSO PRESENT:
CHRISTOPHER A. CHEKOURAS, VIRTUA Senior Vice President, Government Relations
FRED HIPP, JR., VIRTUA Senior Vice President, Government Relations
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SPEAKER:
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MICHAEL KOTZEN
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DR. RICK LUDWIN
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BOB CARULLO
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LOU DEMARCO
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VIRGIL JOHNSON
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(Whereupon, the proceedings commenced at 6:05 p.m.)
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CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
Good evening,
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everyone.
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sign in on the speakers' list.
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going to sit and read this because I feel more
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comfortable sitting down.
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Okay.
Good evening, again.
I'm
Can you hear
me?
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All persons that want to speak,
(Whereupon, all audience members say yes.)
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CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
My name is Judy
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Brown and I am a supervisor with the
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Department of Health, Certificate of Need and
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Healthcare Facility Licensing Program.
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Joining me tonight is my colleague, Luisa
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Alexopoulos.
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and Licensing Program.
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She is an analyst with the CN
This is a public hearing of the
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State Health Planning Board in relation to the
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closure of Virtua West Jersey Hospital,
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Berlin.
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complainant, and in accordance with the
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requirements of law, the State Health Planning
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Board is required to hold a public hearing on
The Department being the application
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this application within 30 days of this
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action.
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been published in accordance with the
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provisions of NJSA 26:2H-3.8.
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to the Secretary of State who posted the
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notice in a public place.
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Adequate notice of this hearing has
Notice was sent
Copies of the hospital CN
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application are available for review at the
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Marie Fleche Memorial Library, the Berlin
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Township Library, the New Jersey State Library
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in Trenton and the Department of Health.
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Information gathered at this
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hearing will be reviewed by the State Health
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Planning Board in addition to reviewing the
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application from Virtua and Department staff's
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analysis and recommendations in a public
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meeting.
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Although no members of the State
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Health Planning Board are present tonight,
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this community public hearing is being
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transcribed and the transcript, along with any
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written comments submitted tonight, will be
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made available to all board members, along
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with the transcript and written submissions
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prior to the meeting to review this
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application.
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There will also be limited time
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available at the next public meeting of the
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State Health Planning Board to hear from
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members of the public.
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applicant will present the application and
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answer questions the board members may have.
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At that meeting, the
In the interest of making efficient use of the time for tonight's
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hearing, each speaker will be limited to three
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minutes.
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with you, please provide a copy to the Board
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and they will be added to the record.
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If you have longer written comments
Anyone interested in speaking
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tonight should sign in, as I've told you
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before, on the speaker list at the entrance --
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and it's not at the entrance, it's actually
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over here now.
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written comments after tonight's hearing and
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before the board meeting is urged to do so.
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Such comments must be submitted no later than
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Wednesday, October 29th and should be
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addressed to the State Health Planning Board
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in care of the Department of Health.
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Anyone who wants to submit
For those of you unfamiliar with
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the Certificate of Need process, the State
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Health Planning Board will vote on a
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recommendation as to the decision of this
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application which will be submitted to the
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Commissioner of Health.
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Planning Board's hearing is part of the
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Certificate of Need process and your comments
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will be considered as we review issues related
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to health planning, hospital and related
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health services and access to healthcare
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services.
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of this process and will be considered along
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with the materials submitted by the applicant.
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The State Health
Your comments are an important part
The Board can recommend approval
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of the application, approval with conditions,
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or denial of the application before it.
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Commissioner will make the final decision on
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the application after the Board makes its
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recommendations.
The
Thank you.
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MS. ALEXOPOULOS:
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MR. KOTZEN:
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MS. ALEXOPOULOS:
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MR. KOTZEN:
Michael Kotzen?
Kotzen, thank you. I'm sorry.
Good evening.
My
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name is Mike Kotzen, Virtua Executive Vice
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President for Population Health.
I am
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representing Virtua at this public hearing to
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discuss the transformation of our Berlin
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campus.
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the State Health Planning Board for their time
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and the opportunity, if they were here, to
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speak with Virtua Better Plans.
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I want to thank all the members of
On May 1st of this year, Virtua
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submitted a Certificate of Need application to
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the New Jersey Department of Health to close
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acute care services on its Berlin campus in
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order to transform that campus into an
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expanded outpatient and long-term care hub.
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The proposed campus will continue to provide
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24/7 emergency service and long-term care and
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rehabilitation services.
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converting what are now hospital rooms into
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use for long-term care and rehabilitation
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patients.
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Our plans include
Why we are -- why are we proposing
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these changes?
Because of an increased focus
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on prevention and wellness, fewer people are
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requiring hospitalization as more healthcare
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services are being provided in non-hospital
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settings.
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admissions have declined by more than 10
Across New Jersey, acute care
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percent in the past five years.
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Virtua has been preparing for the
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transformation in healthcare delivery for many
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years and we have opened three major health
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and lung centers, three urgent care centers,
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partnered with CVS or with Minute Clinics in
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our region and provide other alternatives to
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acute care services as may be appropriate,
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given people's healthcare needs.
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With an increasingly aging
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population, the need is growing to provide
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enhanced services for the senior population;
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and third, over the course of the last three
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years, more and more patients have been served
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by -- more and more patients who had been
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served by the Berlin Hospital are choosing to
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go to the Voorhees Hospital or Marlton
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Hospital.
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Because of all these factors, the
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average number of inpatients at Berlin is now
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about 25.
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practical to provide inpatient services for
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such a low number, with Virtua Voorhees five
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miles away and Virtua Marlton only seven miles
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away.
It is no longer reasonable or
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Pursuant to our mission to help
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people be well, get well and stay well, Virtua
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will remain dedicated to serving the
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healthcare needs of the people in Berlin and
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surrounding communities.
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maintain a vibrant Berlin campus with
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long-term care and rehabilitation services, a
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24/7 emergency department and diagnostic
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outpatient services.
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That's why we will
Our approach to providing
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emergency services at Berlin is a model that
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we use currently at Virtua Camden and is used
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by other health systems in the State and
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around the country.
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at Virtua Berlin will continue to be supported
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by diagnostic services such as lab and
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radiology.
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The emergency department
Emergency room patients requiring
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hospitalization will be transported to other
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Virtua hospitals free of charge.
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Virtua has electronic medical records at all
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of its hospitals, patients' medical records
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will be accessible at any Virtua Hospital.
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This ensures a smooth transition --
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MS. ALEXOPOULOS:
Because
Excuse me.
It
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has lapsed, the three minutes.
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MR. KOTZEN:
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CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
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MS. ALEXOPOULOS: right.
Okay.
All
I'm sorry.
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We only have a
few speakers.
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Seriously?
MR. KOTZEN:
I was going as fast
as I can.
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This ensures a smooth transition
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for Berlin Hospital patients in other Virtua
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hospitals.
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I would like you to know that we
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are making this transformation without
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employee layoffs.
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employees will remain on the Berlin campus
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after the transition to provide emergency,
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long-term care and rehabilitation services and
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necessary support services.
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In fact, more than 300
For employees who are affected by
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the changes at Virtua Berlin, from the outset,
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we have been committed to placing them in
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other positions throughout our health system.
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In fact, while continuing to meet the needs of
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patients at Virtua Berlin, we have found new
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positions for the majority of employees.
A
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few have opted to retire or seek employment
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elsewhere.
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We believe we have put a plan into
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place that ensures the continuity of care for
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the patients that have been served by our
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Berlin Hospitals and for residents' future
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needs.
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highest quality healthcare and customer
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service on the Berlin campus.
We will continue to provide the
We will help
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our patients access in our network of
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facilities and services to address their needs
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in the most responsive way possible.
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Once again, thank you for your time and consideration.
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MS. ALEXOPOULOS:
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CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
Thank you.
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MS. ALEXOPOULOS:
Rick Ludwin.
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DR. LUDWIN:
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Thank you.
Good evening.
My
name is Dr. Rick Ludwin.
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MS. ALEXOPOULOS:
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DR. LUDWIN:
Doctor, sorry.
I'm the Medical
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Director of the Emergency Department at Virtua
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Berlin.
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Department of Emergency Medicine and the
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President of the Medical Staff for Virtua
I also serve as the Chairman of the
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South.
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I am here this evening to extend
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my full support for Virtua's plan to
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transition the Berlin campus from an acute
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care facility to an outpatient and post-acute
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campus.
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As an emergency room physician for
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over 31 years, I've observed and been part of
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significant change in healthcare.
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I commend Virtua's administration
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for leading change to continually provide
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better care, promote health and wellness, and
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increase the number of access points for
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residents to receive care through a network of
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physician offices, urgent care centers and
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outpatient facilities.
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About 14 years ago, with the
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approval of the Department of Health, Virtua
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discontinued acute care services at its Camden
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location and transformed that facility into a
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robust campus with a wide range of outpatient
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and community services that better meet the
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needs of the people we serve in Camden.
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As an emergency room physician, I experienced firsthand the value of maintaining
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a satellite emergency department in the
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community, just as Virtua did in Camden and
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just as Virtua plans to do in Berlin.
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Last year, Virtua's Emergency
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Department in Camden saw over 36,000 patients,
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which is significantly more than when that
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facility provided inpatient care.
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We believe that Virtua's satellite emergency department in Berlin will offer a
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similar benefit to the community when
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inpatient services are no longer provided at
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that location.
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emergency department, the Berlin facility will
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continue to offer diagnostic imaging with CAT
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scan, X-ray and laboratory services.
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And to support this satellite
Following what we hope will be the
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New Jersey Department of Health approval to
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close the acute care services at Berlin, we
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will be fully prepared to continue emergency
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services that same day that we implement that
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closure.
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Critical to the success of any
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emergency department, including a satellite
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emergency department, is having a strong
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business partnership with a medical
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transportation company.
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Virtua and its patients have benefited from
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such a relationship with exceptional medical
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transportation, ensuring the smooth transfer
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of patients to neighboring facilities when
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necessary.
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Over the years,
It is also important to note that
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all of the physicians caring for patients at
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Virtua Berlin have the ability to care for
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patients at our sister sites, ensuring
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continuity of care for their patients.
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I feel confident that Virtua has
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the necessary experience, commitment and
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skills to ensure an effective transition of
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the Berlin campus to serve the community by
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enhancing its emergency department, long-term
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care and rehabilitation facilities, while
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maintaining lab and imaging services.
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For all of these reasons, I fully
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support Virtua's Certificate of Need
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application to discontinue Virtua Berlin acute
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care services.
Thank you.
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CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
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The next speaker will be Robert
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Thank you.
Carullo --
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MR. CARULLO:
Carullo.
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CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
Carullo.
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Sorry.
Thank you very much, but before you
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begin, Mr. Carullo, there were several persons
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who just came in.
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speak, please raise your hand.
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(Whereupon, there is no response from audience members.)
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If any of you would like to
CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
Okay.
Thank
you.
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MR. CARULLO:
Members of the State
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Health Planning Board, good evening and thank
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you for this opportunity to address you about
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supporting Virtua's plans to support --
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supporting Virtua's plans to transform its
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Berlin campus to focus on outpatient,
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long-term care and rehabilitation services.
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I'm Bob Carullo.
I currently live
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in Shamong, but I was raised in Voorhees
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Township and attended school and played my
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sports in Berlin, so I know the town quite
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well.
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many times.
And my family has used Berlin Hospital
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I'm the Executive Director of
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SMART, a consortium promoting science and
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technology in the Mid-Atlantic Region, and I
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wanted to note that Virtua is a member.
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However, I'm speaking tonight as a
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South Jersey resident who relies upon Virtua's
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healthcare services for my family and me,
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again, many times.
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I am aware that healthcare
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providers like Virtua are focusing more and
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more on keeping people healthy and that they
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are increasingly expanding alternatives to
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acute care hospitalization, whenever that's
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appropriate, given a person's particular
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medical needs.
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I know that Virtua has been a
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leader in this healthcare evolution by growing
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its network of primary and specialty
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physicians and opening urgent care centers and
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health and wellness facilities.
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Given my professional interest in
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science and technology, I closely followed the
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development and opening of the new Virtua
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Hospital in Voorhees, a facility that provides
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high quality care supported by the latest
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technology.
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I applaud Virtua for working hard
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to stay ahead of the curve to meet people's
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needs in new and better ways.
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reasons, I fully understand and support
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Virtua's plans to discontinue acute care
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services at its Berlin campus.
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For these
At the same time, since that
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campus is about 11 miles from my home, I'm
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glad that they intend to keep this location in
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operation with vital health services for the
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community.
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appreciate that Virtua plans to continue those
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services in Berlin.
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Should we need emergency care, we
Should my family and I need
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hospitalization following the closure of acute
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care at Berlin, we would not hesitate to use
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Virtua's Voorhees or Marlton Hospitals.
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Again, thank you for this opportunity to
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speak.
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CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
Thank you.
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MS. ALEXOPOULOS:
Lou DeMarco.
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MR. DEMARCO:
Good evening.
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name is Lou DeMarco.
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Berlin Emergency Medical Services.
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9-1-1 EMS provider for Berlin Borough and
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Berlin Township.
My
I'm the Captain of We are the
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Through a conversation with Scott
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Kasper, who we deal with through Virtua's MIC
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program, he asked me to come out tonight and
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just voice a little bit of our concerns, if
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there were any.
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Just as background, since 2010, we
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average roughly about 1800 transports of
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patients a year; approximately 40 percent of
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those patients go to Virtua in Berlin.
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Currently, we do transport
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patients not only to Virtua Berlin, but we do
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use other area hospitals or specialty care,
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such as Cooper for our trauma patients, our
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burn patients would go to Cooper Temple,
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pediatric patients are currently going to
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Virtua in Voorhees or Cooper, our OB-GYN would
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be transported to Virtua in Voorhees or to
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Kennedy Stratford, and our cardiac patients
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would go to Virtua in Marlton or Our Lady of
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Lourdes.
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Approximately, the distance from
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the furthest part of our response area in
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Berlin Borough to Virtua in Voorhees is
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approximately 4.6 miles, with about a
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13-minute trip.
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We've sat down since Virtua came
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to us with their plans and we've met.
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staff has looked at what type of impact it
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would have on us.
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impact us or our patients in a negative way.
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Our
We do not feel that it will
We will still continue to use
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Virtua Berlin for any patients that would not
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require in-hospitalization, but the majority
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of the patients we're seeing more and more
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commonly are asking to either go to Virtua in
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Voorhees or to Marlton.
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So I just wanted to reach out and
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let you guys know that was where our stance
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is, the local department that could be
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affected by this.
Thank you.
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CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
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MS. ALEXOPOULOS:
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Dr. Virgil Johnson, please.
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DR. JOHNSON:
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opportunity to address the Committee.
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of all, let me apologize.
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phone call that blue suits were required for
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this evening's comments.
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Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you for the First
I didn't get the
I suppose someone must rise in opposition, and I guess I'm that individual.
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I've lived in Berlin since 1967 and I have
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spent a number of evenings as a patient in
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West Jersey Southern, as well as Virtua
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Southern Division.
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I don't have any written notes or
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statistics.
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extent, emotional, I suppose.
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however, that Berlin Borough has increased in
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its population in the past decade.
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My concerns are, to a great I do know,
The Sewer Moratorium in nearby
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Winslow Township has just been lifted, which
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would imply there's going to be some
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significant building going on there, as there
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is here in Berlin, referring to homes.
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Kessler Hospital in Hamilton has
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been closed for a number of years.
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no hospital between Voorhees -- Virtua in
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Voorhees and Atlantic City, and it just seems
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like I would much -- would be much more
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comfortable standing here if we were talking
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about expanding Virtua Southern Division than
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closing it.
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right thing to do.
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are sorry to hear that it's closing.
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There is
I just don't feel that it's the I think a lot of people
I have no doubt in my mind that
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since the Board of Directors and the higher
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executive levels have decided this is the best
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thing to do, I am sure the Board of Health and
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the governing bodies in the State will
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probably approve the closing.
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I just personally think, along
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with a lot of other people I've spoken with,
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that it's not the right thing to do at this
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time; that expanding Virtua Southern Division
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would be more applicable at this time.
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Thank you for the opportunity to making these comments.
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MS. ALEXOPOULOS:
Thank you.
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CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
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There are no further speakers on
Thank you.
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our speakers' list, but we must remain here
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until 8 p.m.
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changed your mind and you want to speak now,
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all you have to do is sign the speakers' list
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and you may speak.
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So if you came in later and you
(Whereupon, there is no response from audience members.) CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
We thank all of
those who did come out and speak.
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(Whereupon, the proceedings stood in recess at 6:26 p.m.)
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(Whereupon, the proceedings resumed at 6:57 p.m. as follows:)
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CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
Ladies and
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gentlemen, excuse me.
If there are any
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persons who came in after I made the
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announcement, we do have a speaker list.
In
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order to speak, you have to sign your name on
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the speaker list.
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8 p.m.
We will be here until
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So if you came in and you want an
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opportunity to speak, please come and sign in
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and you may speak.
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though.
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We'll call your names,
Thank you. (Whereupon, there is no response
from audience members.) (Whereupon, the proceedings stood in recess at 6:57 p.m.) - - (Whereupon, the proceedings resumed at 7:31 p.m. as follows:)
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CHAIRWOMAN BROWN:
I don't really
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see any new faces, but we are at 7:31 now.
We
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will be calling last call for anyone who wants
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to sign up to speak.
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So feel free to come up.
(Whereupon, there is no response from audience members.) (Whereupon, the proceedings stood in recess at 7:31 p.m.)
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(Whereupon, the proceedings
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CHAIRWOMAN BROWN: now adjourned.
The hearing is
Thank you.
(Whereupon, the proceedings concluded at 8 o'clock p.m.)
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C E R T I F I C A T I O N
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I, Rose Tamburri, a Certified Shorthand
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Reporter and Notary Public of the State of New
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Jersey, do hereby certify that I reported the
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testimony in the above-captioned matter; that
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the foregoing is a true and correct transcript
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of the stenographic notes of testimony taken
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by me in the above-captioned matter.
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I FURTHER CERTIFY that I am not
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an attorney or counsel of any of the parties,
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nor a relative or employee of any attorney or
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counsel in connection with the action, nor
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financially interested in the action.
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ROSE TAMBURRI,
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License No. 30X100189500
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