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SUBCOMMITTEE REPAIRS and ALTERATIONS

MINUTES Meeting of July 16, 2014 Columbus, Ohio These minutes are subject to approval and are for committee use only. They are not to be duplicated or quoted for other than committee use.

The National Board of Boiler & Pressure Vessel Inspectors 1055 Crupper Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43229-1183 Phone: (614)888-8320 FAX: (614)847-1828

1. Call to Order – 8:00 a.m. 2. Announcements Bill Vallance, Secretary and George Galanes, Chairman, gave the announcements. From the executive committee there will be a combining of the Subgroup General and Subgroup Specific. A new Chair will need to be nominated for vote at this Subcommittee meeting for the committee Subgroup Repairs and Alteration. Nominations should be made and voted upon at the Review of Roster portion of this meeting. 3. Adoption of the Agenda A motion was made to approve. The motion was unanimously approved.

4. Approval of Minutes of January 16 15, 2014 A motion was made to approve the minutes. The motion was unanimously approved.

5. Review of the Roster Consolidation of the Specific and General Subgroups lead to a vote for a Chairman of the Subgroup Repairs and Alteration. The candidates were Brian Boseo, Randy Cauthon, and Angelo Bramucci. The candidate with the most votes, by paper ballet, was Angelo Bramucci. He will be the chair of the Subgroup. A vote by the sub group will be taken in January 2015 to fill the Vice Chairman’s seat. Mr. Rick Valdez is eligible for reappointment to the SGs R/A General and Specific. A vote will be taken. A motion was made to approve. The motion was unanimously approved. Mr. Ron Pulliam is eligible for reappointment to SG R/A General. A vote will be taken. A motion was made to approve. The motion was unanimously approved. Dr. Neel Sirosh would like to become a member of the SC G on FRP. Please view his attached resume. A vote will be taken. A motion was made to approve. The motion was unanimously approved. Mr. Aaron Viet is eligible for reappointment to the SG on Graphite. A vote will be taken. A motion was made to approve. The motion was unanimously approved. Mr. Rob Troutt would like to become a member of the Subgroups Repairs and Alterations General and Specific. Please view his attached resume. A vote will be taken. A motion was made to approve. The motion was unanimously approved. Mr. Edward Ortman has lost his corporate support and has submitted his resignation. The committee discussed and noted Mr. Ortman will be missed.

6. Interpretations IN14-0301 – Part 3, 3.3.2 d) 1), SC on Repairs and Alterations - Question: Is a standard threaded fitting (such as depicted in ASME Section VIII Figure UW-16.2 sketch L) which is welded through a vessel shell considered to be a nozzle as stated in Section 3.3.2 d) 1)? Reply: No (Attachment 2, pp. 15-20)

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July 2014 Mr. Galanes is expected to report. The original inquiry was discussed regarding a threaded fitting being a nozzle. Examples were cited where a fitting that penetrates a Section VIII, Div 1 vessel is considered a nozzle. A motion was made to approve the committees proposed question and reply.. The motion was unanimously approved IN14-0401 Part 3, 1.2 SC on R and A - Question 1: The NBIC Part 3 paragraph 1.2 states that a repair shall be carried out “insofar as possible to the section and edition of the ASME code most applicable to the work planned.” If a vessel is constructed using SA‐517‐E (P‐11B) material to ASME Section VIII Div. 1, where production and weld procedure impact tests were required during construction, would a repair to a crack in the shell require production and weld procedure impact testing under the NBIC? Proposed Reply 1: Yes (Attachment 3, pp.21-22) Question 2: If the answer to Question 1 is yes and there was no SA‐517‐E material from the original lot available, would the repair require the addition of new base material (e.g. a flush patch around the area of the crack) so that production impact tests could be performed with the original base metal to the new base metal? Proposed Reply 1: Yes. Question 3: If the vessel described in Question 1 was to be altered by adding an SA‐675 (P‐1) pump flange to the shell, would production and weld procedure impact tests be required using the same lot P‐1 and P‐11B base materials as used in the alteration? Proposed Reply 1:Yes.

July 2014 A task group has been assigned with Mr. Wielgoszinski as the Technical Project Manager with G. Galanes and W. Sperko. A progress report was given by Mr. Wielgoszinski stating the primary issue is that the original code of construction (Section VIII) requires production impact tests. This is not possible for many existing vessels. IN14-0701 Part 3 PWHT ASME vessel SC on R and A - Subject: NBIC 2010, part 3, Post Weld Heat Treatment of a Vessel. Q1. Must a company that performs post weld heat treatment be required to hold an “R” certification? ANS: YES Q2. Is this post weld heat treatment now considered an “Alteration” to this vessel, as per NBIC part 3? ANS: YES Q3. Shall this “Alteration” be documented on a NBIC R-2 form? ANS: YES (Attachment 4, pp.2324) July 2014

There was a progress report given by Mr. Galanes. A task group has been assigned with Walt Sperko as the Technical Project Manager, including members George Galanes and Bob Wielgoszinski.

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7. Action Items (Attachment 3) NB11-1001 - Part 3, 3.3.4.9 SG R/A Specific- Tube plugging for fire tube boilers. (Attachment 5, p.25-26) July 2014 The item was discussed after it was letter balloted at the SC and MC meetings for comment. A motion was made to approve with changes. The motion was unanimously approved. One negative vote cast by Mr. Craig Hopkins as he believes this is an alteration. NB12-0801 Part 3, SG R/A Specific Repair and Alteration of Gasketed PHE’s in the field.(Attachment 6, pp. 27-36) July 2014 Mr. Cauthon gave a progress report; Section VIII Div.1 has a revision in progress to address PHEs. We are waiting resolution of that action before finalizing the NBIC proposal. NB13-1401 Part 3, S.9.2, SG LB Add wording in this section regarding boiler tube welding. (No attachment) July 2014 A progress report given by Mr. Reetz. This item had not yet been considered by the SG

locomotive boilers. NB13-0403 Part 3, S1.9.2 SG LB Installation of Boiler and Arch Tubes. (No attachment) July 2014 A progress report given by Mr. Reetz. This item had not yet been considered by the SG

locomotive boilers. NB13-1404-A Part 3 S1, SG LB Fillet welded staybolts. (No attachment) July 2014 A progress report given by Mr. Reetz. This item had not yet been considered by the SG

locomotive boilers. NB13-1405 Part 3, S1.2.9 SG LB Throttle pipes, dry pipes, superheater headers and front end steam pipes. (No attachment) July 2014

Progress report given by Mr. Reetz. This item had not yet been considered by the SG locomotive boilers. NB13-1406 Part 3, S1, SG LB Superheater units. (No attachment) July 2014

Progress report given by Mr. Reetz. This item had not yet been considered by the SG locomotive boilers.

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NB13-1407 Part 3, S1 SG LB Bolts, nuts and studs. (No attachment) July 2014 A progress report given by Mr. Reetz. This item had passed SG locomotive boilers but did not

make the SC R&A agenda. NB13-1408 Part 3, S1 SG LB- Threaded boiler studs-Taper thread and straight thread types. (No attachment) July 2014 A progress report given by Mr. Reetz. This item had passed SG locomotive boilers but did not

make the SC R&A agenda. NB14-0203 - Part 3, 1.8, SG R/A General - Review this section for NR Accreditation requirements. The administrative requirements have been removed and we should have a TG review if we want to remove any of the existing requirements in the NBIC Part 3 before we publish the 2015 Edition. (No attachment) July 2014 A progress report was given by Mr. Cauthon. Information of proposed changes to

accreditation section of Part 3 of the NBIC was presented for information. NB14-0205 - Part 3, 2.5.3.2 f), 2.5.3.3 f), 2.5. SG on R/A Spec.- Revise NBIC Part 3, 2.5.3.2 f), 2.5.3.3 f), 2.5.3.4 f) and 2.5.3.5 d) located in Alternative Welding Methods. (Attachment 7, pp. 37-39) July 2014 The proposed code revision was discussed based on a need by users of Section I to allow current use of past qualified temper bead welding procedures, which have been used for years with success with no exemption for hardness testing and carbon equivalency. Section IX currently requires hardness and carbon equivalency testing for QW-290. A motion was made to approve. The motion was unanimously approved NB14-0301 Part 3, 3.3.3 and 3.4.2 SG R/ A Specific- This item is a result of IN13-0501. Write rules for encapsulation. (Attachment 8, pp. 40-43 ) July 2014

Mr. Wielgoszinski gave a progress report. A task group has been assigned with B. Boseo as the Technical Project Manager. NB14-0302 - Part 3, S6.15 SG on R/A Spec. – Development of TR Forms. (Attachment 9, pp. 44-52) July 2014

Mr. Vallance gave a progress report that the TR-1 thru 4 forms are nearing development completion. NB14-0701 Part 3, 3.2.2 c) SG on R/A Gen. This action item is a result of IN13-0301. The rationalization is to support an intent interpretation that addresses an R-Certificate holder's capability to fabricate ASME pressure parts to be used in a repair or alteration being performed by the same RCertificate holder who is fabricating the ASME pressure part. The current words in NBIC Part 3 do not support this. (Attachment 10, pp. 53-54)

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July 2014

Mr. Wielgoszinski gave a progress report and document presented responding to ballet comments. NB14-1904 - Part 3, Figure 3.3.4.4-a SG on R/A Gen. - Typical examples of seal welding tubes. This figure does not provide the precautions for examining for cracking as in 3.3.4.4-b seal welding of riveted joints. (Attachment 11, p. 55 ) July 2014 A motion was made to approve with no changes. The motion was unanimously approved NOT to add the note to the figure. NB14-2301 – Part 3, SG on R/A General - Define the meaning of the word seal weld. (Attachment 12, pp.56-57 ) July 2014 A motion was made to approve definition of a seal weld from Section IX with an added sentence indicating seal welds provide no structural integrity. The motion was unanimously approved to add a definition for a “seal weld” into the glossary.

9. New Business NB14-2401 Part 3 Supplement 6, S6.5 Adding TR-3 Form: (Attachment 13 pp.58-59 ) A Progress report was provided on adding the TR-3 form into the text of supplement 6 given by Bill Vallance. NB14-2402 Part 3 Supplement 6 S6.3 Adding accreditation to Suppl.-6: ( Attachment 14 pp.60-61) A progress report provided by Bill Vallance on the addition of wording referencing accreditation in supplement 6. NB14-0202 Part 3 Index review (Attachment 15 pp.62-67) A motion was made to approve closing this item with no action because the index review was completed. The motion was unanimously approved to close the item as the index review was completed in February 2014 with the index turned over to NB staff. 

Web-Ex Training NB Staff conducted a presentation on WEB X system for Public Comment Review to be done October, 2014



Editorial Changes None discussed 10. Future Meetings

January 19-23, 2015, Orlando, Florida July 21-24, 2015, Columbus, Ohio 11. Adjournment at 2:25 pm Respectfully Submitted, Bill Vallance, Secretary 7-28-2014 :rh H:\ROBIN-Active Documents\NBIC Secretarial Documents\Committees\SC on Repairs and Alterations\Agenda\Agenda RA 0714.doc

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Section VIII, Div. 1 explains in UW-3 that any weld joint  connecting nozzles to main shells, heads, etc. is classified as a Category D weld. In addition, UW-16(a)(1) goes on to state that terms such as nozzles, fittings, etc. essentially define the same type of construction and form a Category D weld joint between the nozzle (or other term) and the shell, head, etc. - Marty Toth 2/14/2014

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1. ASME Section VIII, Division 1, U-1(e) [U-1(c) in the 1971 Edition] defines the scope of the pressure boundary of a vessel to be the following: • the welding end connection for the first circumferential joint for welded connections, • the first threaded joint for screwed connections, • the face of the first flange for bolted, flanged connections, and • the first sealing surface for proprietary connections or fittings. 2. UG-36 through UG-46 discuss the requirements for openings in a pressure vessel. 3. UG-120 provides requirements for Data Reports and UG-120 (a)(2) specifically discusses the requirement of having the proper number of lines on the Data Report “to provide space to describe each component.” Granted, the 1971 Edition does not have the level of detail in UG-120 that the current edition of the Code contains, but that does not negate the requirements in U-1(c) in the 1971 Edition stating where the pressure boundary stopped…at the first threaded connection for these 3/8” fittings. The omission of the 3/8” fitting from the 1974 Form U-1 could have occurred for several reasons (i.e. human error, manufacturer and AI didn’t catch the 3/8” drains not isted, post construction repair or alteration of the pressure vessel that was not documented, etc.). - Brian Morelock 2/17/2014

Table W-3 No. 41 states: list all openings, regardless of size and use. - Rick Valdez 2/17/2014

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ENERGY NORTHWEST

James E. Dorwin Code Programs Engineer P.0. Box 968, Mail Drop PE27 Richland, WA 99352-0968

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jedorwin@ energy·northwest.com

November 19, 2013 Secretary, NBIC Committee The National Board of Boiler and Pressure Vessel Inspectors 1055 Crupper Avenue Columbus, OH 43229 Dear Sir or Ma'am: Please consider my Code Interpretation inquiry question below at your earliest availability. I have included a background paper (Enclosure 1) and a copy of the vessel's ASME Section VIII Code Data Report (Enclosure 2) with this letter. Thank you for your support and consideration. Subject:

NBIC, 2011 Edition with no Addenda Routine Repairs: Part 3, Section 3.3.2 d) 1)

Question: Is a standard threaded fitting (such as depicted in ASME Section VIII Figure UW -16.2 Sketch L) which is welded through a vessel shell considered to be a "nozzle" as stated in Section 3.3.2 d) I)?

Reply: No.

James E. Dorwin

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ENERGY NORTHWEST

James E. Dorwin Code Programs Engineer P.0. Box 968, Mail Drop PE27 Richland, WA 99352-0968 Ph. 509.377-8551 F. 509.377-4135 [email protected]

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